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| Visual glitch/bug on Omnivorous Chordate while seated at captain's chair |
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Posted by: Ivan - 10-11-2023, 12:25 AM - Forum: Prerelease Bug Reports
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On new human characters, the Chordates, when you are seated in the captain's chair (or any station) and look up 30 to 60 degrees you can see your own nose, eyes and teeth, which is very immersion breaking.
It does not happen on old characters.
I didn't find any other thread about it.
I tried adding a picture, but it didn't work. Tried .jpg, .png and making it smaller.
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| Not the same game without players |
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Posted by: Neils Iyssada - 10-06-2023, 10:16 AM - Forum: Cantina
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Hey ! This post is primarily aimed for Haxus, but feel free to add your PoV.
I feel like this game's not the same on singleplayer. It was obviously developped with multiplayer in mind, and most aspects don't work great without a server (resource production, ship construction, building construction, population flow in cities etc).
In addition, what made SoH a great game was other players and the interest / danger they represented : you could either find a friend or go full war with another empire, you could actually compete for whatever reason or even act as some intergalactic pest.
Now, I know there must be a ton of work to do with Steam release and all.
But even something as simple as being able to host external dedicated servers and a way to join them in-game (even via direct IP) could be enough to make a big difference at launch.
IMO in the actual state this game is like playing DayZ in singleplayer : there is a ton of cool features, you can RP and play alone for some time, but the main reason why people like it is for interactions with other players.
Maybe this would change when a proper story will be added, and some challenge too (right now there's no need to get good optimized Q255 warships as pirates are a low level threat).
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| favorite or funniest moments in the game |
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Posted by: Anton7890 - 09-20-2023, 06:24 AM - Forum: Cantina
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I suggest you tell me your funny or any moments in such a great game when it was still an MMO and alive
Here’s my example: we had the leader Paleolithic, he taught me how to fly a spaceship, and he showed me the handbrake, and I accidentally turned it on at full speed, and we flew into a rock, and the spaceship couldn’t stand it and exploded! no one survived, but it was funny with the Paleolithic reaction
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| Adressing lack of threat, interaction with AI empires and ship interior design. |
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Posted by: Ivan - 09-10-2023, 04:06 PM - Forum: Arena of Ideas
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To make Hazeron starship succesful imo, it needs to emulate what made Shores of Hazeron attractive in the first place:
- A sense of fear of being invaded and urgency to develop your fleet/colonies/empire to make it as unlikely as possible to be completely annihilated.
- The ability to meet other empires at various stages of develpment and interact with them. (Observe, spy, trade, assist, protect, invade, vassal, ally)
- Having easily designable ships with full interiors. Every player should be able to do this.
Basically there are two reasons why I lost interest in Hazeron starship alot faster than in 2014 Shores of Hazeron.:
1. Lack of threat and interaction with other empires, need for AI empires.
I know there is a thread about buffing the pirates, and I do agree with that, but I feel that is not enough to replace players.
It struck me that in Shores of Hazeron, you could basically do everything you can do in Stellaris, but then in first person. I don't htink there ever was any other game where you could really do this. There even was the looming threat similar to the Xenon from the X-series or Mass Effect's Reapers (in the form of the Syndicate :p)
To reach this, we'd really need some AI empires that can actually colonise worlds and which can either be friendly, neutral or xenophobic hostile species with whom you can interact in various ways through the diplomacy screen.
Right now you kind of can make this happen, by making different empires with different characters and have them form alliiances and/or fight eachother. This is dull though, due to the fact that you are the director, who decides who wins or loses, without any real feeling of fear.
Additionally, some extreme threat like the Reapers, Xenon or Outsiders would be neat. Some invasion that would only occur after some set or random time after you playing, or when specific conditions are met, and for which you have to prepare and build up a huge fleet, perhaps even ally with other empires. Just like in Stellaris. You could even just encounter them when you venture into another galaxy. (e.g. after you've visited 3 galaxies). It could be a part of the story aswell. They could maybe even be present in the mmo, if it ever comes back, appear periodically or as an event) and require players to cooperate to stop them.
The first person world of Hazeron , combined with the diplomacy/interaction features of Stellaris, would make this game be amongst the best 4x games that ever existed.
I realise programming AI that colonises, invades and in various other ways iteracts with player empires, is probably not an easy task.
If that is not possible, just periodic spawning of a hostile fleet that goes from system to system, would be nice also.
Without the game is fun for a while, but nowhere nearly as engaging as Shores of Hazeron was.
2. Interior design
Also, sorry, but have to say this again: the old ship and (similar)building designers were superior for interior design. Drawing rooms and room voids and associating room voids with door open states and pathing, feels a bit too much of a chore, to the point where, after designing 5 ships, I don't want to design any new ship interiors anymore, and because of that don't feel like playing the game anymore.
Just having two different interiors for ships is a bit dull, one for shuttles and corvette sized ships, another for frigates, destroyers and medium harvesters and haulers, I simply don't feel like designing a 3rd one for cruisers, battleships and carriers. I also still haven't finished a space station design.
It does not need to be the same as the old one, but just something where u can more easily draw rooms and just place doors, that automatically connect rooms. Adding floors one by one to buildings was neat.
Also in the old system areas were inaccessible, because systems were there. Right now you have empty, dead weight areas that are inaccessible, simply because you don't feel like designing interiors. The old placement of systems was nice, but too demanding on gpu. Instead it could just be 3D blocks that determine where systems physically are located, without actually drawing hunderds or even thousands of system modules. These 3D blocks were engines or weapons are located, would then not allow for hallways or rooms to be made in the exact same spot, to have an excuse as to why some parts of the ship are inaccessible. It made more sense and was similar to other 4x games where u need to place systems within the ship's hull.
Conclusion
Basically the lack of a threat/interaction combined with the interior design of ships and buldings is what made me lose interest to the current version of the game. If 2014 type of buildings and spacecraft interior design (or rather something similar, but more streamlined) would come back and there was something to fight and fear, I'd be alot more willing to play this again, and with a few exceptions, I think this would be the case for the majority of players and potential players. I think adding these features could mean the difference between a huge succes and failure for the Steam release of Hazeron Starship.
For reference: I played Hazeron starship for a little over 268 Hours. I played 2014 Shores of Hazeron for over 2000 hours in 6 months before it was taken down (I was unemployed at the time), and my total playtime until the removal of the old designer was around 5000 hours. Designing ships was fun, because even the most complex designs took a max of a few hours. Being afraid of Syndicate was fun. Being paranoid and having many distant backup colonies was fun. Being a vassal but scheming to overthrow the overlord was fun. Joining an alliance to overthrow the Evil Pony empire and blockading their planets was fun. Spending 50 hours on a single ship fiddling with voids, associating doors and pathing is not fun.
To me 2014-2016 Shores of Hazeron was the best game that ever existed. There's no other game that I have played more than that. My second most played game is Black Desert Online at 3783 hours, but that's only because it's a typical addictive/manipulative MMO that deliberately uses psychological tricks to addict players. It was not really fun at all. 2014-2016 Shores of Hazeron very much was fun.
I myself am trying to stop playing videogames, but I do want this game to be succesful. I hope that if I do start play mroe videogames again sometime, I can play a version of Hazeron Starship that has more of the things that, at least to me, made 2014-2016 SoH the best game that ever existed.
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| Achievement Graphics |
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Posted by: Haxus - 05-22-2023, 11:53 PM - Forum: Cantina
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Eleven achievements are currently defined for Hazeron Starship. They are:
Skin of Targoss - For claiming your homeworld using a flag handcrafted from the skin of Targoss.
Astronaut - For orbiting a world for the first time.
Interstellar Astronaut - For orbiting a world in a solar system other than your home world solar system.
Intergalactic Astronaut - For orbiting a world in a galaxy other than the one containing your home solar system.
Colonizer - For building a city on a world other than your home world.
Journeyman Colonizer - For building cities on ten different worlds other than your home world.
Master Colonizer - For building cities on fifty different worlds other than your home world.
Spacecraft Architect - For publishing a spacecraft blueprint to the exchange.
Published Spacecraft Architect - For publishing a spacecraft blueprint to the Steam Workshop.
Building Architect - For publishing a building blueprint to the exchange.
Published Building Architect - For publishing a building blueprint to the Steam Workshop.
A graphic image is needed, for each one, that will appear on Steam. Here are the requirements for achievement graphics, from the Steamworks SDK.
Design: For best results, achievement icons should be 256x256 px JPG
images. They can be as small as 64x64, but it is recommended you use
the larger size. We recommend that achieved icons be colorful;
unachieved icons should be grayscale.
Requirements: Since achievements can appear in various places
throughout the Steam Community, the names and icons you enter must be
appropriate for all ages and audiences. Valve may remove games from the
store entirely if their achievements violate community content
guidelines or are otherwise offensive.
Would anyone like to create these 11 icons for the Hazeron Starship achievements? I will accept submissions for any or all of them. If I use your icons, I will pay $200 each, up to a total of $2200 for the complete set.
I can create the unachieved icons myself, if you do not submit them. I will simply make a grey scale edition of the submitted achievement icon.
Because this is a work for hire, Hazeron Freehold LLC will own all the rights to the images that are selected for use in the game and purchased according to this offer. I will not retain any rights to submissions that are not used, nor will any compensation be paid for submissions that are not used.
This is the basic set of achievements. The game is so complex that I can easily come up with more after they are done, especially if I like your style.
I am open to suggestions for additional achievements. I like it when the achievements highlight some interesting aspect of the game.
You will be listed in the credits if your icon is used, with your permission of course. You can specify what name is to appear, including contact information if you desire.
Send submissions to achievements@hazeron.com.
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| Old ship designer |
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Posted by: bd95cff0 - 05-10-2023, 03:24 PM - Forum: Cantina
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I understand the reason why a new designer was needed (just for the buildings etc.). Is it possible - technically - and also because of usability to implement the old designer again?
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| 2023-05-05 Designer Exit, French Translation |
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Posted by: Haxus - 05-07-2023, 06:21 PM - Forum: Updates
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Designer Exit
The designer kicks you out if it takes too long to do something. This is very frustrating.
Fixed code designed to keep people from staying in a designer after they log off. In solo play, it no longer kicks you out for any reason.
Translation
A few bits of french translation were completed.
The final (I hope) round of translation was finished by the translators. We should be done with them for a while.
If the release of Hazeron Starship goes well I will likely ask them to translate it to one or more other languages. The cost will be considerably less since they have the project in their system. I was considering spanish or russian. Are people in russia allowed to buy games on Steam these days?
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