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2022-01-13 FYI

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Well, I haven't been around in years, but it's nice to see those news.

I'm really glad to see SoH coming back. I used to play the game back in 2013-2014 or so, along with my brother. We talked about it recently and we're kinda bummed to see it had died. So, yeah, really happy to see it coming back !

As far as this discussion goes, however, I feel like I gotta take part in it.

The non-combatant state is quite a good idea. Raid-off is a bitch on every game, and I'll feel better knowing that people who can only play a couple of hours a day won't end up being rent by those who can play all day long.

Regarding the fee, though, I feel like going back to F2P or B2P would be best. Not P2P. I know some people don't mind pouring 10 to 15 bucks in a game every month, but some of us do. For some, it's because 10 bucks is a big deal. For me, it's because once I subscribe to a game/servuce/whatever, I feel like I gotta get my money's worth, maximize the time I spend on the game, and it becomes a second job. I feel forced to log in and play as much as possible so as to not waste money.

If you are worried about going F2P because of players who will create infinite empires, there's a way around it : make the players register a credit card/PayPal account/whatever but without charging anything. Kinda like how you prove that you are an adult on YouTube.

This way, every account will need a payment method linked to it, and you can prevent the same credit card/PayPal account from being linked to several accounts.

OR make the game B2P. And one-time payment, and you get the game for life. That's how Guild Wars worked. I'd be fine with buying the game for 30 or even 40 bucks.

And of course, you can still accept donations alongside either of those methods.

F2P + Donations, or B2P + Donations sound fine to me. Forget P2P, it is a thing of the past, and it should remain so.

Or, you can make the empire creation process so tedious that making multiple empires would not be worth the time, but this feels like a bad idea.

Anyways, glad to see SoH coming back from the darkness. I am excited to play it again.
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2022-01-13 FYI - by Haxus - 01-13-2022, 04:15 PM
RE: 2022-01-13 FYI - by Deantwo - 01-13-2022, 04:17 PM
RE: 2022-01-13 FYI - by Seathre - 01-13-2022, 04:17 PM
RE: 2022-01-13 FYI - by Zarok - 01-13-2022, 04:18 PM
RE: 2022-01-13 FYI - by bonusmop - 01-13-2022, 04:18 PM
RE: 2022-01-13 FYI - by Dragonly - 01-13-2022, 04:20 PM
RE: 2022-01-13 FYI - by Crabman - 01-13-2022, 04:26 PM
RE: 2022-01-13 FYI - by pip12345 - 01-13-2022, 04:27 PM
RE: 2022-01-13 FYI - by GaelicVigil - 01-13-2022, 04:28 PM
RE: 2022-01-13 FYI - by Vooker525 - 01-13-2022, 04:43 PM
RE: 2022-01-13 FYI - by Neils Iyssada - 01-13-2022, 04:58 PM
RE: 2022-01-13 FYI - by Haxus - 01-13-2022, 06:13 PM
RE: 2022-01-13 FYI - by Deantwo - 01-13-2022, 08:44 PM
RE: 2022-01-13 FYI - by Haxus - 01-13-2022, 06:15 PM
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RE: 2022-01-13 FYI - by Paladin - 01-13-2022, 07:03 PM
RE: 2022-01-13 FYI - by Celarious - 01-13-2022, 07:35 PM
RE: 2022-01-13 FYI - by crazykristi - 01-13-2022, 07:42 PM
RE: 2022-01-13 FYI - by OriginalGangstaStaines - 01-13-2022, 08:29 PM
RE: 2022-01-13 FYI - by Haxus - 01-13-2022, 09:39 PM
RE: 2022-01-13 FYI - by OriginalGangstaStaines - 01-13-2022, 09:55 PM
RE: 2022-01-13 FYI - by Wincil - 01-13-2022, 10:08 PM
RE: 2022-01-13 FYI - by Deantwo - 01-13-2022, 10:37 PM
RE: 2022-01-13 FYI - by GaelicVigil - 01-13-2022, 10:17 PM
RE: 2022-01-13 FYI - by Xantheose4 - 01-13-2022, 10:26 PM
RE: 2022-01-13 FYI - by OriginalGangstaStaines - 01-13-2022, 10:32 PM
RE: 2022-01-13 FYI - by Haxus - 01-13-2022, 11:08 PM
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