What we are missing is the common RTS game's version of old intel in the fog of war.
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Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fog_of_war#In_video_games
Currently it works in such a way that you basically forget about the presents of cities in a solar system the moment you lose detection coverage over it. This is weird and makes remembering locations of interest hard to manage.
Ideally you would remember where there last was a city. For example when you last visited a solar system there was a city, so you would assume there is still a city there until you visit again to confirm. This would make it much easier to navigate space far from home.
However this should preferably also work the other way around. There was no city the last time you were in the solar system, so you don't know that a city was founded there until you visit the solar system again.
I can see why we might not have this right now, as it requires a good amount more information to be kept about each empire's starmap. The database would either have to keep record of what was in each solar system that last time visited it. Or it would have to have a history of when each and every city was founded and destroyed so it can check what a solar system was like when you visited. Either way would work, but without knowing how the database is structured it is hard to say what would be easiest to implement, and that is without even mention the large amounts of new information it would have to contain and show to players.
The starmap has also always been missing some options to share starmap information in-game. A way for two allied empires to share survey or detected cities would help a lot. Of course a lot of players would also be worried about having to share ALL of their starmap information with another, so most of us would likely want some finer control over what is shared and what isn't.
Observatories have nothing to do with detection, they only announce presence of income asteroids and allows for an in-system survey. Only airports and radars detects cities in other solar systems.
Airports allow you to detect cities in explored solar systems within 17.32pc.
Radars allow you to detect warp signatures in unexplored solar systems, if your empire has warp technology.
See: https://www.hazeron.com/wiki/index.php/Warp_Signature
Then you have not explored very far from your own systems.
See: https://www.hazeron.com/wiki/index.php/Locator#Star_Map
Or: 2019-06-28 Star Map Friends, Search System Scan, Search Cache
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fog_of_war#In_video_games
Currently it works in such a way that you basically forget about the presents of cities in a solar system the moment you lose detection coverage over it. This is weird and makes remembering locations of interest hard to manage.
Ideally you would remember where there last was a city. For example when you last visited a solar system there was a city, so you would assume there is still a city there until you visit again to confirm. This would make it much easier to navigate space far from home.
However this should preferably also work the other way around. There was no city the last time you were in the solar system, so you don't know that a city was founded there until you visit the solar system again.
I can see why we might not have this right now, as it requires a good amount more information to be kept about each empire's starmap. The database would either have to keep record of what was in each solar system that last time visited it. Or it would have to have a history of when each and every city was founded and destroyed so it can check what a solar system was like when you visited. Either way would work, but without knowing how the database is structured it is hard to say what would be easiest to implement, and that is without even mention the large amounts of new information it would have to contain and show to players.
The starmap has also always been missing some options to share starmap information in-game. A way for two allied empires to share survey or detected cities would help a lot. Of course a lot of players would also be worried about having to share ALL of their starmap information with another, so most of us would likely want some finer control over what is shared and what isn't.
(07-20-2020, 08:45 PM)Greydog Wrote: Do you have observatories in all your systems? ..that should let you pick up their signal as long as they're advanced enough to generate one.
Observatories have nothing to do with detection, they only announce presence of income asteroids and allows for an in-system survey. Only airports and radars detects cities in other solar systems.
Airports allow you to detect cities in explored solar systems within 17.32pc.
Radars allow you to detect warp signatures in unexplored solar systems, if your empire has warp technology.
See: https://www.hazeron.com/wiki/index.php/Warp_Signature
(07-20-2020, 08:45 PM)Greydog Wrote: I have never had a city I discovered disappear from the map unless the city itself disappeared.
Then you have not explored very far from your own systems.
See: https://www.hazeron.com/wiki/index.php/Locator#Star_Map
Or: 2019-06-28 Star Map Friends, Search System Scan, Search Cache