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	~~{{Revision\|1=New features~~. ~~Needs formatting. Just creating~~ the ~~page now so it exists. See:~~ [~~https:~~/~~/hazeron.com/mybb/showthread~~.~~php?tid=3110 Update 2024-05-09 Fleets...]}}~~		A fleet is a group of [[spacecraft]] that are led by a single flagship. To create a fleet, use the [[Spacecraft_(Window)\|Spacecraft]] (<code>F9</code>) window's ''Fleet'' tab while onboard a spacecraft and click the ''Make Fleet'' button to designate the ship a flagship.

	A ship can be ~~designated as~~ a flagship ~~of a~~ fleet~~. Any number of ships can be joined~~ to ~~that flagship's fleet. An empire can have more than one flagship thus more than one~~ fleet.		Alternatively a ship can be given the ''Fleet'' mission order to make a ship become a flagship, to join an existing fleet, or to depart from their fleet.

	A new Fleet order was added to the Mission Orders list. Using a Fleet order, you can order a ship to become a flagship, to join a flagship, or to depart from their fleet. Ordering a fleet ship to become a flagship promotes it to the flagship and the previous flagship is ~~demoted. Ordering a flagship to exit the fleet dissolves~~ the fleet.		==Flagship==
			The flagship is the fleet leader.

	~~A new Fleet page was added to the Spacecraft window tabs. There are some~~ fleet ~~management controls~~ to ~~designate the ship as~~ a flagship, to ~~join a fleet,~~ and ~~to exit a fleet. Fleet ships check in with~~ the flagship ~~periodically~~. ~~The~~ flagship ~~lists those ships in a table with information about them on~~ the ~~Fleet page. Right click them to manage them~~.		Ordering a fleet ship to become a flagship promotes it to the flagship and the previous flagship is demoted. Ordering a flagship to exit the fleet dissolves the fleet.

	~~One handy action that is not obvious is that you can select multiple~~ ships in ~~your fleet and right click on the one that will be~~ the ~~new~~ flagship. ~~Then select the Make Fleet menu option and they will split off into~~ a ~~separate fleet~~ with the ~~new flagship~~.		Fleet management controls to designate the ship as a flagship, to join a fleet, and to exit a fleet. Fleet ships check in with the flagship periodically. The flagship lists those ships in a table with information about them on the Fleet page. Right click them to manage them.

	~~The~~ Fleet ~~page also has a combo box to~~ select ~~the fleet formation. This determines where the~~ ships in the ~~fleet belong relative to~~ the flagship. ~~Formation changes happen instantly; locked ships immediately change positions rather than have~~ a ~~gaggle of ships trying to rearrange themselves~~.		===Splitting Fleet===
			You can select multiple ships in your fleet and right click on the one that will be the new flagship. Then select the ''Make Fleet'' cpntext menu option and they will split off into a separate fleet with the new flagship.

	At the helm, you see a box indicating your ship's position in the fleet when it is not locked into position. Once you are close enough to that spot, you can use a helm button to lock your ship into its formation position. At that point, your ship is slaved to the flagship and it will move in sync with the flagship until it is unlocked, which the pilot (or the flagship) can do at any time.		==Fleet Formation==
			At the [[Helm_Station\|helm console]], you see a box indicating your ship's position in the fleet when it is not locked into position. Once you are close enough to that spot, you can use a helm button to lock your ship into its formation position. At that point, your ship is slaved to the flagship and it will move in sync with the flagship until it is unlocked, which the pilot (or the flagship) can do at any time.

	NPC pilots of fleet ships always try to reach their formation position so they can lock in to the fleet. They are more successful when the flagship is not moving. Some formations, such as column formation, make it easier for the ships to get locked into their positions.		[[NPC]] pilots of fleet ships always try to reach their formation position so they can lock in to the fleet. They are more successful when the flagship is not moving. Some formations, such as column formation, make it easier for the ships to get locked into their positions.

	~~I tried having NPCs fly~~ in ~~formation~~ and ~~I tried it myself. That was a fools errand with ships that accelerate or decelerate at hundreds~~ of ~~meters per second constantly and that lack~~ the ~~ability~~ to ~~achieve that fine of control~~. ~~Airplanes and navy ships~~ can ~~easily move at~~ the ~~same speed as each other, making formations a bit easier. Not so with spacecraft trying~~ to ~~go the speed of light as fast as possible all the time~~.		The fleet ship checkin information shown in the Fleet table is used to limit the maximum warp and maximum acceleration of the fleet to the slowest ships. If anybody can't warp the flagship will not go to warp. Likewise, if anybody can't wormhole the flagship will not go through wormholes.

	~~The locking mechanism proved to be~~ the ~~answer. It might~~ not ~~be super realistic but it gets the job done and it looks pretty good. It also keeps the fleet together very well~~ through wormholes ~~and at warp speed. The NPC pilot of the flagship considers the radius of the entire fleet when avoiding obstacles~~.

	~~The~~ fleet ship ~~checkin information shown~~ in the ~~Fleet table is used~~ to ~~limit the maximum warp and maximum acceleration~~ of the ~~fleet to the slowest ships~~. ~~If anybody can't warp~~ the ~~flagship will not go to~~ warp. ~~Likewise, if anybody can't wormhole~~ the flagship ~~will not go through wormholes~~.		When flying to a space station, the flagship moves the fleet next to the station as if it were one huge ship. All the locked ships in the fleet are considered to be in range of the station for trade purposes. It also keeps the fleet together very well through wormholes and at warp speed. The NPC pilot of the flagship considers the radius of the entire fleet when avoiding obstacles.

	~~When flying~~ to a ~~space station,~~ the flagship ~~moves~~ the ~~fleet next~~ to the ~~station as if it were one huge ship~~. ~~All~~ the ~~locked~~ ships in the fleet are ~~considered~~ to be in ~~range~~ of the ~~station for trade purposes~~.		===Formations===
			Formations are described relative to the flagship. Fleet ships are arranged starting with the largest down to the smallest. No formation places a fleet ship directly in front of the flagship.
			* Column - Fleet ships are placed in a straight line out behind the flagship.
			* Echelon Left - Fleet ships are placed in a line to the left angled 30 degrees back.
			* Echelon Right - Fleet ships are placed in a line to the right angled 30 degrees back.
			* Rank - Fleet ships are placed alternating in straight lines to the right and to the left.
			* Rank Left - Fleet ships are placed in a line to the left.
			* Rank Right - Fleet ships are placed in a line to the right.
			* Shells - Inspired by electron shells. The flagship is at the center. The first 2 fleet ships are placed to the left and right of the flagship. The next 8 fleet ships form a box at the next larger shell radius. The next 28 ships form a sphere at the next larger radius.
			* Shield - Fleet ships form concentric rings of 8 ships a short distance in front of the flagship. Many rings would look like a target with the flagship peering out of the bullseye.
			* Sphere - Fleet ships form a sphere centered on the flagship. At 8 ships, a box is formed. At 12 ships, the positions match the vertices of an icosahedron. Additional ships form concentric icosahedrons at increasing radii out from the flagship.
			* Vee - Fleet ships are placed alternating in straight lines to the right and to the left, angled 30 degrees forward.
			* Wedge- Fleet ships are placed alternating in straight lines to the right and to the left, angled 30 degrees back.

			==Missions==
	Fleet ships are free to have their own individual missions. They just can't move if they are locked. There are a few mission orders that become the current order for the entire fleet when they are the current order for the flagship. They are: Attack, Plunder, Hide, and Stand Down.		Fleet ships are free to have their own individual missions. They just can't move if they are locked. There are a few mission orders that become the current order for the entire fleet when they are the current order for the flagship. They are: Attack, Plunder, Hide, and Stand Down.

	I haven't tested every possible situation with fleets. Beware of "Land" orders. I'm not sure how that would go. If you have trouble with fleets, avoid using them until the next update. I'm sure there will be improvements between now and then.

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	I haven't tested every possible situation with fleets. Beware of "Land" orders. I'm not sure how that would go. If you have trouble with fleets, avoid using them until the next update. I'm sure there will be improvements between now and then.		I haven't tested every possible situation with fleets. Beware of "Land" orders. I'm not sure how that would go. If you have trouble with fleets, avoid using them until the next update. I'm sure there will be improvements between now and then.

	~~Starforce~~
	~~The addition of fleets introduced a nomenclature problem. Previously all government owned spacecraft were called fleet ships. Privately owned vessels are called company ships.~~

	~~I struggle with this one. I almost went with Navy but that is just too nautical. Space Force? Not a chance. Space Fleet? Space Navy? Ho hum. Star Fleet? :/~~

	Searching did not turn up any existing trademark on the term Starforce. There was a video game called Star Force, two words, but I figure that's no more of a problem than saying star fleet, instead of starfleet™. If anybody knows of a conflict please tell me and I will consider changing it.

	~~I did in fact change the term Star Fleet Academy to Starforce Academy.~~

	There is now a Starforce comm channel and a Fleet comm channel. The Starforce channel talks to all ships in your empire that are not fleet vessels under a flagship. In other words, only the flagships and ships not in fleets will answer on the Starforce channel. Of course, only ships with an officer will answer hails.

	~~The Fleet channel communicates with other ships in the same fleet.~~

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A ship can be designated as a flagship of a fleet. Any number of ships can be joined to that flagship's fleet. An empire can have more than one flagship thus more than one fleet.

A new Fleet order was added to the Mission Orders list. Using a Fleet order, you can order a ship to become a flagship, to join a flagship, or to depart from their fleet. Ordering a fleet ship to become a flagship promotes it to the flagship and the previous flagship is demoted. Ordering a flagship to exit the fleet dissolves the fleet.

A new Fleet page was added to the Spacecraft window tabs. There are some fleet management controls to designate the ship as a flagship, to join a fleet, and to exit a fleet. Fleet ships check in with the flagship periodically. The flagship lists those ships in a table with information about them on the Fleet page. Right click them to manage them.

One handy action that is not obvious is that you can select multiple ships in your fleet and right click on the one that will be the new flagship. Then select the Make Fleet menu option and they will split off into a separate fleet with the new flagship.

The Fleet page also has a combo box to select the fleet formation. This determines where the ships in the fleet belong relative to the flagship. Formation changes happen instantly; locked ships immediately change positions rather than have a gaggle of ships trying to rearrange themselves.

At the helm, you see a box indicating your ship's position in the fleet when it is not locked into position. Once you are close enough to that spot, you can use a helm button to lock your ship into its formation position. At that point, your ship is slaved to the flagship and it will move in sync with the flagship until it is unlocked, which the pilot (or the flagship) can do at any time.

NPC pilots of fleet ships always try to reach their formation position so they can lock in to the fleet. They are more successful when the flagship is not moving. Some formations, such as column formation, make it easier for the ships to get locked into their positions.

I tried having NPCs fly in formation and I tried it myself. That was a fools errand with ships that accelerate or decelerate at hundreds of meters per second constantly and that lack the ability to achieve that fine of control. Airplanes and navy ships can easily move at the same speed as each other, making formations a bit easier. Not so with spacecraft trying to go the speed of light as fast as possible all the time.

The locking mechanism proved to be the answer. It might not be super realistic but it gets the job done and it looks pretty good. It also keeps the fleet together very well through wormholes and at warp speed. The NPC pilot of the flagship considers the radius of the entire fleet when avoiding obstacles.

The fleet ship checkin information shown in the Fleet table is used to limit the maximum warp and maximum acceleration of the fleet to the slowest ships. If anybody can't warp the flagship will not go to warp. Likewise, if anybody can't wormhole the flagship will not go through wormholes.

When flying to a space station, the flagship moves the fleet next to the station as if it were one huge ship. All the locked ships in the fleet are considered to be in range of the station for trade purposes.

Fleet ships are free to have their own individual missions. They just can't move if they are locked. There are a few mission orders that become the current order for the entire fleet when they are the current order for the flagship. They are: Attack, Plunder, Hide, and Stand Down.

I haven't tested every possible situation with fleets. Beware of "Land" orders. I'm not sure how that would go. If you have trouble with fleets, avoid using them until the next update. I'm sure there will be improvements between now and then.

Starforce
The addition of fleets introduced a nomenclature problem. Previously all government owned spacecraft were called fleet ships. Privately owned vessels are called company ships.

I struggle with this one. I almost went with Navy but that is just too nautical. Space Force? Not a chance. Space Fleet? Space Navy? Ho hum. Star Fleet? :/

Searching did not turn up any existing trademark on the term Starforce. There was a video game called Star Force, two words, but I figure that's no more of a problem than saying star fleet, instead of starfleet™. If anybody knows of a conflict please tell me and I will consider changing it.

I did in fact change the term Star Fleet Academy to Starforce Academy.

There is now a Starforce comm channel and a Fleet comm channel. The Starforce channel talks to all ships in your empire that are not fleet vessels under a flagship. In other words, only the flagships and ships not in fleets will answer on the Starforce channel. Of course, only ships with an officer will answer hails.

The Fleet channel communicates with other ships in the same fleet.

[[Category:Spacecraft]]